Editor’s
Note: On November 3, 2016, Smith Debnam’s Jerry Myers attended a meeting with
the CFPB to discuss the proposed rules for third party debt collection. Below, he shares his thoughts from the
meeting.
On Thursday November 3, 2016 I
joined a group of colleagues for a meeting with the CFPB to discuss its
proposed rules for third party debt collection.
I was one of four attorney members of the National Creditors Bar
Association in attendance. We were
joined by representatives from the American Collectors Association and the Debt
Buyers Association. The CFPB had invited us to meet with them following their
Small Business Review Panel discussion a couple of months earlier.
Each of the industry groups was
given an opportunity to speak about the impact of the proposed rules on their
respective industries. There were areas
of common concern among the groups.
Examples include the numerous notices and disclosures the proposed rules
would require, the limits on communications with consumers, and the definition
of certain terms, such as “default” and “date of default” which are included in
the rules on substantiation. There was
also considerable discussion about determining what constitutes a dispute and
how disputes should be handled. All of
the groups are concerned about the costs of complying with the new rules. The
groups also expressed a shared concern that the new rules, once effective, not
be applied retroactively, as was the case in the PHH litigation. Lastly, all groups encouraged the Bureau to
publish the rules for creditors at the same time as the rules for the third
party collectors.
The attorneys pointed out
additional ways that the proposed rules raise difficult issues for attorneys
handling debt collection cases. First,
the proposed rules require that the attorney provide the consumer with numerous
disclosures and notices. These notices,
such as the proposed Statement of Rights, make it appear that the collection
attorney is providing legal advice to the consumer. Such advice would violate the Rules of
Professional Conduct, since the attorney for the creditor may not also provide
legal advice to the debtor. The proposed
rules would also require the attorney to provide a “litigation disclosure” in
connection with each communication which includes or evidences a threat of
litigation. Since some have argued that most
communications by a collection attorney at least imply a threat of litigation,
must the attorney provide the litigation disclosure in every communication with
a debtor?
The attorneys also pointed out
the problems we will face under the proposed rules which impose restrictions on
communication with consumers. For
example, contacts with a consumer are capped at two per week if the collector,
or any collector who previously worked on the account, has had a “confirmed
consumer contact” with the consumer.
Under the rules, a “confirmed consumer contact” exists once any
collector, even a prior one, has communicated with the consumer about the debt,
and the consumer has answered when contacted that he or she is the debtor or alleged
debtor. We explained that such a rule
imposes an untenable restriction on attorneys involved in litigation. Depending on how many contacts have been made
in a given week, the attorney might not be able to inform a consumer, for
example, that a hearing date had been changed by the court or that a settlement
offer had been accepted by the creditor.
As mentioned above, the proposed
rules require a collector to “substantiate” a debt before taking any action to
collect it. Among the items the attorney
must substantiate are the date of default and amount owed at default; however,
the terms “default” and “date of default” are used differently for different
types of debt. For example, on a credit
card account, there could be several defaults, followed by charge-off, followed
by additional payments. Also, on an auto
loan, there could be more than one missed payment, followed by a repossession,
followed by a sale of the collateral and establishment of a deficiency balance. Trying to define default, date of default,
and amount due at default for all types of debt would be a daunting task. We reminded the panel that accounts placed
with third party collectors are by definition delinquent. That being the case, we suggested that the
creditor be allowed to pick a logical point in time, such as the date of
charge-off for a credit card, to provide a statement indicating the balance at
that time, and then account for any additional charges or credits experienced
thereafter?
Representatives from the CFPB
present at the meeting were actively engaged in the discussions and asked many
questions seeking to clarify the information the industry panelists
provided. They invited written follow up
expanding on points raised during the meeting.
Deadlines previously established for publication of the debt collection
rules have been extended several times.
It appears likely that the deadline will be extended again as the CFPB
seeks to better understand the inner workings of the industry they are
attempting to regulate.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Jerry
Myers practices law with the Smith Debnam firm in Raleigh NC and serves as its
Managing Partner. He concentrates his practice in creditors' rights with an
emphasis on debt collection, judgment enforcement, and commercial litigation. He is certified as a specialist in the field
of Creditors' Rights Law by The American Board of Certification. Jerry is also a past President of the
Commercial Law League of America. Having
practiced in the creditors' rights field for more than 25 years, he has written
and lectured extensively on debt collection and judgment enforcement. Jerry was
also instrumental in forming the North Carolina Creditors Bar Association, a
specialty bar whose members are committed to advocating for the rights of those
who make credit available, as well as to educating the general public on
managing credit effectively. He served
as the organization's President 2010-2012.